comicgetfuzzy: hopefully just the one post today... ;)

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x_wifey) wrote in

comicgetfuzzy,
@ 2005-03-09 00:37:00

hopefully just the one post today... ;)

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	killerspork33 2005-03-09 05:47 (link)
	usually when using another person's icon you should give to credit to them. it's even better when you ask permission. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	glennierae_01 2005-03-09 06:28 (link)
	That was a great Daily Show with Jon Stewart. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	mbarrick 2005-03-09 07:31 (link)
	Yes, you wouldn't want the person who originally infringed on Darby Conley's copyright not to get the credit for it.... Who gets credit for what again? shakes head Damnit, Jim! It's an LJ icon, not the Mona Lisa. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	killerspork33 2005-03-09 07:41 (link)
	True the orignal copyright goes to Darby, but someone spent the time and effort to make that icon. It's a generally accepted concept across lj in all icon communitys that you credit the maker of the icon. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	mbarrick 2005-03-09 07:59 (link)
	Yes, I am aware of the convention. It doesn't make it less silly. The, oh, two minutes it takes to cut-and-paste from someone else's work (maybe three if you want to animate the layers a couple layers)... I'll live if I never ever get "credit" for all my time and effort.... Really. I will. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	killerspork33 2005-03-09 08:02 (link)
	wow, and it looks like crap. You can look at it and tell that you spent thirty seconds on that. And no one would need to credit that cause it's definitely not worth taking. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	mbarrick 2005-03-09 08:04 (link)
	I'm crushed. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

killerspork33
2005-03-09 08:09 (link)

now, if you had spent actual time and effort into making an icon look decent you would want credit. Alot of time and devotion is put in by serious icon makers learning different techniques and the art programs. Obviously a concept you would understand.

When a person puts in that time and effort they should be acknowledge for it. Most people seem to understand and respect that, seeing how the majority of people are more than willing to credit people for icons they've made.

It's just annoying, talentless people who haven't attempted to make an icon who thinks it's nothing more than copy and pasting who seem to have a problem with the silly concept.

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	thefragile7393 2005-03-10 00:23 (link)
	Actually I think it looks cute.... (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	mbarrick 2005-03-10 00:38 (link)
	Less is more. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	morhout 2005-03-09 19:34 (link)
	Damnit, Jim! It's an LJ icon, not the Mona Lisa Thank you for making me giggle. Really. I needed it. So much so that I'm going to use this Fear&Loathing icon that I stole from somewhere aeons ago (see how it perfectly portrays the paranoid look of the icon-maker? Someone, somewhere is using one of his icons. UNCREDITED!). (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

Gasp!

mbarrick
2005-03-09 20:49 (link)

No, really, the right thing to do is include a scan of your written permission from Terry Gilliam, the estate of Hunter S. Thompson, Johnny Depp, Fear and Loathing LLC, Rhino Films, Shark Productions, Summit Entertainment, Universal Pictures, and especially the "artist" that ripped and animated those half-dozen or so frames in every single post you make using the icon. Never ever use the icon with giving full credit to the icon artist involved. As a bare minimum every post and comment you make should include credit as demonstrated below.

Icon Cast and Crew:

Icon Artist:
Michael R. Barrick

Special Thanks:
Simon Fraser University fine arts programme
Adobe Corporation

Directed by
Leslie H. Martinson

Screenplay:
Lorenzo Semple Jr.

Based on "Batman" by Bob Kane

Starring:
Adam West as Batman

Cinematography by
Howard Schwartz

Special Effects by
L.B. Abbott

Produced by:
20th Century Fox
Greenlawn Productions
William Dozier Productions

© 1966 20th Century Fox
(used without permission)

But most importantly....

In case you missed it the first time...

Icon Artist
Michael R. Barrick, B.A. Visual Arts

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	Re: Gasp! morhout 2005-03-09 21:19 (link)
	Yes! Can you imagine what a blissful paradise the world would be if everybody would adhere to that crediting policy? Closes his eyes I can see it now... Peace in Northern Ireland and the Middle East, the erradication of world-hunger, Lady Diana back from the dead,... It's so beautiful it burns my eyes! Maybe porn can lessen the pain... (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Gasp! mort 2005-03-10 00:35 (link)
	hahahaha ! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Re: Gasp! mort 2005-03-10 00:40 (link)
	gold, jerry ! gold ! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Re: Gasp! nemesisbecoming 2005-03-10 06:02 (link)
	LOL... so awesome! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Re: Gasp! jp_likes_stuff 2005-03-10 06:45 (link)
	I'm stealing your upwards marquee trick, and not giving you credit! (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Gasp! mbarrick 2005-03-10 06:58 (link)
	But... but... sometime around August 1996 when IE 3 came out I spent at least five minutes reading that paragraph of the documentation to learn how to use the new tag! How dare you mooch off my valuable time and experience like that! I'm a serious web developer and I demand compensation! Oh. Wait. That's what my ten years of paycheques were for.... (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Re: Gasp! stillwingless 2005-03-10 08:09 (link)
	and since some people are being kinda picky about this, i am going to save your icon, wait until you're not using it anymore, and then use it and give you credit all at once. it's nice to be polite. :D (Reply to this) (Parent)

	stupiddumbpanda 2005-03-09 20:40 (link)
	Well, at least I'm sure it was made on a legally obtained copy of photoshop or some other equal photoediting software...surely not a pirated copy...right? Right? (Reply to this) (Parent)

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x_wifey
2005-03-10 04:17 (link)

you have a right to your opinion, but

killerspork33 has the right to ask someone to credit them for an icon they made. it's common internet etiquette. anyone on lj should know that. of course the image is not their personal property and of course not everyone is going to credit, but an icon maker has the right to ask that people credit them. i think you were fairly antagonistic with

killerspork33, and since i don't want any hostility in my community, i have to ask that you not provoke arguments when people make simple justified requests. i am already pissed off at

local81 for their comments, so please don't try to start anything else.

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x_wifey
2005-03-10 04:07 (link)

killerspork33: for the most part,

seashellullaby seems to credit for the icons she uses, and i have seen several people with icons very similar to that bucky/mirror one (though maybe you are referring to a different icon). if it's that important, feel free to report it to lj abuse, but there's not really much you can do to get them to credit. i hope you know all this.

otherwise, i am sorry

mbarrick was giving you such a hard time about simply asking someone to credit. you had a very valid request, and i think he was unjustly antagonistic towards you. and as for

local81... i am very pissed at their comments and am very tempted to ban them. if they bother you again, please let me know. i will not tolerate those kinds of comments in my community, and have already warned them to watch their future comments.

i hope this doesn't deter you from commenting in the future.

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	Friendly advice tharsis 2005-03-10 06:19 (link)
	I wouldn't invoke LJ Abuse in your position. This community is, in and of itself, a flagrant copyright violation and therefore violates section XIV.3 of the Terms of Service (unless of course you actually have permission to republish these comics). LJ has shut down lots of comic feeds and communities like this in the past. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

Re: Friendly advice

x_wifey
2005-03-10 06:29 (link)

no, i wouldn't want to involve lj abuse either for all those reasons, but i thought i should at least let her know since i have heard of them temporarily suspending users who refused to credit or used an icon without permission, though it is incredibly hard to prove. i have had several get fuzzy feeds shut down already, and since this one has escaped notice for so many months, i hope it will continue.

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Re: Friendly advice

gladstone
2005-03-10 22:15 (link)

LJ Abuse wouldn't do anything anyway since the icons themselves are copyright violations, generally. Unless you actually own the copyright on the photo you used in an icon you made (if you took the picture yourself, for instance), then you don't actually have a case that LJ Abuse can act on. It's spelled out pretty clearly in the FAQ:

In general, an image or piece of writing which has been altered is still considered to be copyrighted to the person who created the original work; the altered content is usually considered derivative work which itself has the potential of being in violation of the copyright holder's work.

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